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Do you like the moderation on this site?
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 19, 2012 6:29 pm 
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Do you like the moderation on this site? Add comments in this thread.


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PostPosted: Thu Jan 19, 2012 6:33 pm 
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I think it is worth noting that forum rules in general are usually vague enough to where virtually anyone could be warned or banned. Just as some posters bring problems from other sources, so do some moderators :)


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PostPosted: Thu Jan 19, 2012 8:33 pm 
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Compared to some sights this is one is has handled things nicely and fairly. I do not think anything is wrong per say with how the rules are handled when folks cross them.

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PostPosted: Thu Jan 19, 2012 9:55 pm 
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i see no problems.

please move to Administration & Forum Topics.

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PostPosted: Fri Jan 20, 2012 7:44 pm 
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I like what I've seen of the moderation on this site, and the rules are better-defined than on some others. (Though it might be easy to accidentally scroll past short rules in the middle of the list, even when you're looking for 'em. :embarrased: )

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PostPosted: Sat Jan 21, 2012 3:59 pm 
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never had any issues at this site. and the Mods here aren't overzealous like at other crash prone sites


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PostPosted: Sun Jan 22, 2012 2:37 am 
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I've never had an issue with the Mods on this site, they do a good & fair job,

I have issue with troll posts on this site though.

Dave.

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PostPosted: Sun Jan 22, 2012 9:08 am 
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I've never had an issue with the Mods on this site, they do a good & fair job,

I have issue with troll posts on this site though.

Dave.

I never liked troll posts. Since troll posts are defined by intent (such as to piss someone off), it is difficult to determine most troll posts. Like the term munchkin, I have seen an overuse of the term troll applied to posts and/or people that someone else doesn't like for whatever reason.


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PostPosted: Sun Jan 22, 2012 12:17 pm 
No problems for me.


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PostPosted: Tue Jan 24, 2012 7:08 pm 
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I've had a few warnings over the years from Mods, but absolutely not problems what so ever. The rules are much more evenly enforced then most places on the interweb.


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PostPosted: Tue Jan 24, 2012 9:57 pm 
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In my opinion one reason why the rules have been easy to enforce is because this site has been very fortunate in having very few professional trolls.

There have been one or two notable exceptions, however. And on those occasions I have found the mod response to be rather lacking. Again, just my opinion.

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PostPosted: Tue Jan 24, 2012 10:25 pm 
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In my opinion one reason why the rules have been easy to enforce is because this site has been very fortunate in having very few professional trolls.

There have been one or two notable exceptions, however. And on those occasions I have found the mod response to be rather lacking. Again, just my opinion.
It's actually kinda hard (for me at least) to mod trolls. One reason is even when it's obvious (to me) that a troll is posting, others respond normally to the post, making it seem like they don't really think they're a troll. I'm probably the main reason we aren't harder on trolls; the other mods often want to get rid of someone, and I oftentimes don't agree. While the forums ARE mine, they aren't just FOR me, so I tend to be a bit lax on them.

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PostPosted: Wed Jan 25, 2012 2:53 am 
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In my opinion one reason why the rules have been easy to enforce is because this site has been very fortunate in having very few professional trolls.

There have been one or two notable exceptions, however. And on those occasions I have found the mod response to be rather lacking. Again, just my opinion.
It's actually kinda hard (for me at least) to mod trolls. One reason is even when it's obvious (to me) that a troll is posting, others respond normally to the post, making it seem like they don't really think they're a troll. I'm probably the main reason we aren't harder on trolls; the other mods often want to get rid of someone, and I oftentimes don't agree. While the forums ARE mine, they aren't just FOR me, so I tend to be a bit lax on them.
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 25, 2012 3:01 am 
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Still have a good deal on 300 porto-johns...if we need them.

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PostPosted: Wed Jan 25, 2012 2:21 pm 
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porta-johns?is that the sort of telephone-cell shaped boxes u see on fun fairs?

if yes: can they be padlocked?
if yes again: we might need them for the trolls.

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PostPosted: Wed Jan 25, 2012 4:43 pm 
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Yes they can be locked and yes the come in blue, right now i have blue and white and tan and white...

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PostPosted: Sat Jan 28, 2012 10:22 am 
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Yes they can be locked and yes the come in blue, right now i have blue and white and tan and white...
The tan ones always seem more classy...

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PostPosted: Thu Feb 02, 2012 9:08 pm 
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Overall I like the moderation on this site. For me, unfair or biased moderation involves the review of post(s) for forum violations without a complaint for them and/or a special application of forum rules for a particular poster.


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PostPosted: Sat Feb 04, 2012 6:59 am 
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Overall I like the moderation on this site. For me, unfair or biased moderation involves the review of post(s) for forum violations without a complaint for them and/or a special application of forum rules for a particular poster.
So as a moderator I'm supposed to allow a post that violates the rules until someone complains about it? For some reason that seems to be the exact opposite of what a mod should be doing. :lol:

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PostPosted: Sat Feb 04, 2012 8:51 am 
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Overall I like the moderation on this site. For me, unfair or biased moderation involves the review of post(s) for forum violations without a complaint for them and/or a special application of forum rules for a particular poster.
So as a moderator I'm supposed to allow a post that violates the rules until someone complains about it? For some reason that seems to be the exact opposite of what a mod should be doing. :lol:
I think he is saying we should also be policing our selves and our fellow posters...hence the notify the mod button...

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PostPosted: Sat Feb 04, 2012 10:07 am 
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Overall I like the moderation on this site. For me, unfair or biased moderation involves the review of post(s) for forum violations without a complaint for them and/or a special application of forum rules for a particular poster.
So as a moderator I'm supposed to allow a post that violates the rules until someone complains about it? For some reason that seems to be the exact opposite of what a mod should be doing. :lol:
I think he is saying we should also be policing our selves and our fellow posters...hence the notify the mod button...
Everyone should police themselves. It's the mod's job to police others either when informed via the notify button (or PM) that something may violate the forum rules or by us stumbling into it ourselves. That's how it's supposed to work.

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PostPosted: Mon Feb 06, 2012 11:38 am 
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I'm on a forum that literally bans 6-12 members a week! I don't think This site banned that many members in the decade I have been here! So I think the mods and the members are what makes HeavyMetal Forum what it is. :toast:

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PostPosted: Wed Feb 08, 2012 3:38 am 
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IMNSHO, the mods here do a fantastic job of keeping this bunch in line. (Yes, me included.) Disturbances and problems are generally kept to a minimum.

You have to remember, the mods here are all one of us. They started out as just regular posters just like you or me. (Well, maybe a tab bit more rational than me, but I digress.)

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PostPosted: Wed Feb 08, 2012 8:42 am 
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*SNIP*While the forums ARE mine, they aren't just FOR me, so I tend to be a bit lax on them.
And this is why the community respects you the way we do. :toast: To the all around great guy!

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PostPosted: Thu Feb 09, 2012 4:57 am 
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*SNIP*While the forums ARE mine, they aren't just FOR me, so I tend to be a bit lax on them.
And this is why the community respects you the way we do. :toast: To the all around great guy!
:clap: :agreed: Here Here !! :toast:

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PostPosted: Fri Feb 10, 2012 4:12 pm 
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Overall I like the moderation on this site. For me, unfair or biased moderation involves the review of post(s) for forum violations without a complaint for them and/or a special application of forum rules for a particular poster.


So as a moderator I'm supposed to allow a post that violates the rules until someone complains about it? For some reason that seems to be the exact opposite of what a mod should be doing. :lol:

When a moderator is reviewing post(s), it is deliberately for forum violations. There is a significant distinction between something like accidently viewing a post that clearly violates forum rules and deliberately combing through posts of someone in particular looking to apply the forum rules in some way :)


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PostPosted: Fri Feb 10, 2012 4:52 pm 
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Overall I like the moderation on this site. For me, unfair or biased moderation involves the review of post(s) for forum violations without a complaint for them and/or a special application of forum rules for a particular poster.


So as a moderator I'm supposed to allow a post that violates the rules until someone complains about it? For some reason that seems to be the exact opposite of what a mod should be doing. :lol:

When a moderator is reviewing post(s), it is deliberately for forum violations. There is a significant distinction between something like accidently viewing a post that clearly violates forum rules and deliberately combing through posts of someone in particular looking to apply the forum rules in some way :)
True. And I have seen what you are talking about applied on other sites. Not to violate (such a strong word, has lots of negative vibes to it) the rules here, BUT everyone knows how well I am not liked by certain members and admin over on CBT so I know what you are getting at ATN082268. The thing is here no one seems to be trying to post to cause issues, we disagree but we don't end up mad at each other to the point we leave or attack each other. In fact if any of you happen to be in my neck of the woods and stopped by I would open the door invite you in and offer the house to you. Well to a point, I do need it back.

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PostPosted: Fri Feb 10, 2012 5:09 pm 
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Overall I like the moderation on this site. For me, unfair or biased moderation involves the review of post(s) for forum violations without a complaint for them and/or a special application of forum rules for a particular poster.


So as a moderator I'm supposed to allow a post that violates the rules until someone complains about it? For some reason that seems to be the exact opposite of what a mod should be doing. :lol:

When a moderator is reviewing post(s), it is deliberately for forum violations. There is a significant distinction between something like accidently viewing a post that clearly violates forum rules and deliberately combing through posts of someone in particular looking to apply the forum rules in some way :)
And has that happened here?

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PostPosted: Wed Feb 15, 2012 10:08 pm 
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Overall I like the moderation on this site. For me, unfair or biased moderation involves the review of post(s) for forum violations without a complaint for them and/or a special application of forum rules for a particular poster.


So as a moderator I'm supposed to allow a post that violates the rules until someone complains about it? For some reason that seems to be the exact opposite of what a mod should be doing. :lol:

When a moderator is reviewing post(s), it is deliberately for forum violations. There is a significant distinction between something like accidently viewing a post that clearly violates forum rules and deliberately combing through posts of someone in particular looking to apply the forum rules in some way :)
I never noticed that you had any issues over there but then i tend not ot pay attention to such things. but i have noticed the Mods there (at least some of them) being a touch overzealous for a while so i have been spending less time there. heck i was once even given a warning in the picture war thread over a pic of a novelity coffee mug


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PostPosted: Thu Feb 16, 2012 9:46 pm 
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<<I never noticed that you had any issues over there but then i tend not ot pay attention to such things. but i have noticed the Mods there (at least some of them) being a touch overzealous for a while so i have been spending less time there. heck i was once even given a warning in the picture war thread over a pic of a novelity coffee mug>>

Some moderation actions like post deletion or banning may not be obvious to most. If the attitude of a moderation team is something along the lines that we're right even when we're wrong, then fairness is suspect and any errors by the moderation team will likely be followed up by decisions reinforcing the mistake.


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PostPosted: Sun Feb 19, 2012 2:49 pm 
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So this all turns out to not be about an issue here, but about an issue somewhere else? If that's true, you've broken one of the longstanding rules here of keeping issues on other boards on those other boards.

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PostPosted: Sun Feb 19, 2012 5:32 pm 
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So this all turns out to not be about an issue here, but about an issue somewhere else? If that's true, you've broken one of the longstanding rules here of keeping issues on other boards on those other boards.
Hehehe.... Ban Him! Ban Him! Ban Him! Ban Him! Ban Him! :devil:

I mean, uh, that's okay. :blush:

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PostPosted: Tue Feb 28, 2012 9:34 am 
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So this all turns out to not be about an issue here, but about an issue somewhere else? If that's true, you've broken one of the longstanding rules here of keeping issues on other boards on those other boards.
Hehehe.... Ban Him! Ban Him! Ban Him! Ban Him! Ban Him! :devil:

I mean, uh, that's okay. :blush:
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 06, 2012 2:36 pm 
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So this all turns out to not be about an issue here, but about an issue somewhere else? If that's true, you've broken one of the longstanding rules here of keeping issues on other boards on those other boards.

How exactly did you come to that conclusion when my poll asks about moderation on *this* site? I did assume that this forum moderation could do stuff like delete posts, lock posts, ban people, etc like some other forums but I did not specifically mention any other forum or any specific problems from those forums. What issue am I bringing from somewhere else? For me, the issue in this thread is about moderation on this site. If *you* choose to bring in issues from other places, then *you* are the one at fault :)


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PostPosted: Tue Mar 06, 2012 7:09 pm 
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You'll note that Rick also sees your thread for what it is. :lol:

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PostPosted: Tue Mar 06, 2012 10:47 pm 
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Yes, Rick sees all....... :o

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PostPosted: Wed Mar 07, 2012 12:23 pm 
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You'll note that Rick also sees your thread for what it is. :lol:
A constructive thread, unlike so many other threads and comments... Really though, if you don't like this thread because it focuses on the moderation of this site and you're a moderator, and/or for some other trivial reason, I wouldn't dwell on it. And as you probably already know, a good moderation team does not act out of bias against posters and threads :)


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PostPosted: Wed Mar 07, 2012 2:39 pm 
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Can thread form biases? It is perplexing topic...

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PostPosted: Wed Mar 07, 2012 9:19 pm 
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You'll note that Rick also sees your thread for what it is. :lol:
A constructive thread, unlike so many other threads and comments... Really though, if you don't like this thread because it focuses on the moderation of this site and you're a moderator, and/or for some other trivial reason, I wouldn't dwell on it. And as you probably already know, a good moderation team does not act out of bias against posters and threads :)
I act out on whatever my whim of the moment is. It's worked out well so far. :lol:

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